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Saturday, July 13, 2019

Ongoing Facebook Discussion With A Christian Conservative Re: Epstein, Clinton & Trump

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Nude model Melania Trump is to Donald Trump's left.

The report of "loads of models" and Trump's "frequent appearances" at Epstein's place date back to 2000.
This report is not from somebody trying to "sell a book" -- as those who don't read allege.

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Witness who worked near Epstein's home once said, 'I often see Donald Trump' and 'loads of models'
Writing yesterday about the apparent conspiracy of silence surrounding Jeffrey Epstein’s well-known and sordid proclivities, New York Times columnist Michelle Goldberg noted that many powerful men protected Epstein over the years, for reasons known...
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  • KK: too incredible.. Bill Clinton takes 26 trips on the Lolita express going miles around the world on a private jet where young girls say they were drugged and involved in "group sex" with the passengers.. and you find one picture with Trump to associate him with Epstein who he had banned from his property years ago when he found out Epstein had molested a 14 year old daughter of an employee.. This really is about as prejudiced and once again.. a report from a "false witness" who can in no way prove a thing unless there are videos, pictures, a flight log or testimony from the girls themselves to back up the stories.
    • Alan Archibald I am not saying that Bill Clinton is innocent, although I presume Clinton, Trump and Epstein's innocence until proven guilty.

      Again, I hope every sex-trafficking scum-bucket is brought to justice. 

      If Bill Clinton is found guilty in a court of law, I will applaud that reckoning.

      And if Trump is guilty in a court of law, I will applaud that reckoning as well.

      What I am saying, however, is that Trump's sexualized fondness for young girls -- including his own daughter -- makes it logically more likely that Trump will be convicted in this scandal than Bill Clinton who, according to available reports by investigative journalists, has shown no sexualized fondness for underaged girls.

      "Jeffery Epstein, Donald Trump, And Bill Clinton"
      https://paxonbothhouses.blogspot.com/.../jeffrey-epstein... 

      You are clearly interested in defending His Despicability.

      I have no interest -- zero, zip, niente, nada, zilch -- in defending Bill Clinton.

      If Clinton is guilty of Epstein-related crimes, throw him in the (metaphorical) wood chipper.

      ***

      A final note...

      The circumstantial evidence that Bill Clinton flew on "The Lolita Express" means almost nothing in a court of law.

      But you represent this fact as if it were definitively damning evidence. 

      When not telling commonplace lies like "New Orleans was built 20 feet below sea level," you play very loose with truth and hve virtually no regard for the rules of evidence.
      Jeffrey Epstein, Donald Trump And Bill Clinton
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      Jeffrey Epstein, Donald Trump And Bill Clinton
      Jeffrey Epstein, Donald Trump And Bill Clinton

    • KK: what are you doing for any of these people? the victims in NO or anywhere? do you care what happened to all of these victims of Epstein's sex trafficking? Does it matter? you name only TRUMP as being associated with him? have you taken time to actually investigate who has been most closely associated? who most covered up the SEX SLAVE industry in our own time? or does it matter? does TRUTH matter? shouldn't we all care most of all about truth? if any of us hope for real justice?
    • Alan Archibald Karen Kolbinsky I reference Bill Clinton's relationship with Epstein in the post immediately above your rant alleging "You name only TRUMP as being associated with him." 

      Jesus Christ Karen, have you no regard for Truth? 

      Are you solely dedicated to defending Trump when, reasonably, we would let the Epstein case play out in courts of law? 

      You will find my previous reference to Clinton's relationship with Epstein in "Jeffrey Epstein, Wikipedia, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein "

      To spell it out: "Epstein was a longtime acquaintance of Prince Andrew and Tom Barrack,[82] and has attended parties with many prominent people, including Bill Clinton, George Stephanopoulos, Donald Trump,[83] Katie Couric, and Woody Allen.[84] His contacts also included Israeli prime minister Ehud Barak and British prime minister Tony Blair.[85][86] In September 2002, Epstein flew Clinton, Kevin Spacey, and Chris Tucker to Africa in his private jet, nicknamed "Lolita Express" by press.[87][88][13][79] Flight records show Clinton flew on Epstein's plane 26 times to at least a dozen international locations.[89][90] Flight logs did not list any secret service detail for one five-leg trip to Asia in May 2002.[89] A Clinton spokesperson later claimed that Clinton only took four trips on Epstein's airplane from 2002 to 2003, all with his staff and Secret Service detail.[91]

      In a profile of Epstein in New York magazine in 2002, former Democratic Senate leader George J. Mitchell said of Epstein, "I would certainly call him a friend and a supporter." In the same article, Donald Trump remarked, "I've known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it – Jeffrey enjoys his social life."[92] Bill Clinton lauded Epstein as "a committed philanthropist" with "insights and generosity." At the time Epstein was on the board of the Rockefeller Foundation, a member of the Trilateral Commission and the Council on Foreign Relations, and was a major donor to Harvard University.[93] 

      Now you can proceed to your next falsehood to protect The Malignant Messiah - and to pretend you tell the truth.

      Know this Karen: The longer you persevere in Trump's defense, the more damage you cause to "Christian" "conservatism."

      "The Deepening Crisis in Evangelical Christianity," Support For Trump Degrades Christian Witness
      https://paxonbothhouses.blogspot.com/.../the-deepening... 

      I conclude this update by repeating myself: "If Clinton is proven guilty, throw him into the (metaphorical) wood chipper."
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      Jeffrey Epstein - Wikipedia
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