Dear F,
But it is within the nature of politics to fight - tooth and nail - for one's political preference.
For nearly 200 years, virtually no one questioned "The System" when "The System" DICTATED that "The President MUST be a white Anglo-Saxon protestant male."
But now, when "uppity" black women are saying Joe's pick MUST be a black (and Joe saying it has to be a woman) it's seen as scandalous.
To what extent are black women warning that black men will vote Trump if Joe doesn't pick a black running mate?
In 2016, only 81% of black men voted for Hillary, whereas 98% of black women voted for her.
I see blacks desire for a black running mate as a quest for restorative justice.
And I admire that quest.
In any event, in the end, the choice will be Joe's.
And if it's not, then you have an issue with Joe - not with black women who seem to be sounding a reasonable warning that black men will bail.
Look at the following chart and ask yourself: "Why am I always complaining about the black vote "perhaps" declining from 93% for Joe to 90% for Joe instead of HOWLING -- incessantly -- at the fact that only 39% of white people voted for Hillary?"
Remember those two numbers 93 and 39. 93 and 39. They are mirror images of one another. A simple mnemonic.
An interesting sidelight...
What little information I can find online about Italian-American voting prefrences in 2016 (and this information is not high-quality data) suggest that significantly fewer Italian-Americans voted for Hillary than other white ethnicities.
To put stress where it is due, the blacks you criticize most in this current election season are black women who voted 98% for Clinton.
And you're laying into them!
Mingya!?
I mean WTF.
The whole article on 2016 voting demographics: https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2018/08/09/an-examination-of-the-2016-electorate-based-on-validated-voters/
In democratic electoral politics -- where numbers count -- I too would want meaningful consideration if I were part of a lethally-oppressed ethnicity that has ALWAYS been the Democratic Party's MOST faithful servant.
But you get pissed off at them; expect them to "stay down on the plantation."
"Give us your vote, but keep your mouth shut."
At the end of the day, selecting the veep IS Joe's choice.
It is ONLY Joe's choice.
And if Joe doesn't make the choice he honestly considers best, then YOUR problem is with JOE, not with dark-skinned women who "don't know their place" and who want their voices to be better represented, and who are understandably afraid that black men might bail.
After all, black women can't count on white people!
And God knows black women can't count on white Trump cult Christians!
Consider the murky politics surrounding JFK's selection of LBJ as his running mate. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1960_Democratic_Party_vice_presidential_candidate_selection
Jackie Kennedy Onassis Reveals JFK's "Disdain" For Lyndon Johnson: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Jacqueline_Kennedy/jacqueline-kennedy-reveals-jfk-feared-lbj-presidency/story?id=14477930
"Choosing A Mate"
Texas. This one word explains the otherwise inexplicable decision John Kennedy made in 1960. He chose the Texan Lyndon Johnson, a man he didn’t trust and who didn’t trust him, as his running mate because he needed to win Texas to win the White House.
For better or worse, "horse-trading" is how politics works.
If you want (or expect) the very Nature of any phenomenon to be other than what it is, then your problem is with God who, apparently, designed phenomena to be the way they are.
Hasta las 9!
On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 2:18 PM FV wrote:
Bernie echoed my sentiments this a.m. saying the v.p. choice is like a marriage and Joe's the only one to make that choice.Yesterday Velshi had a diverse 7 people group asking the ? of v.p. and a African Amer. woman (as many I have seen)said it has to be an Afr. Amer. woman or its a no go. I say the question should not even be asked.On Sun, Aug 2, 2020, 8:45 AM Alan Archibald <alanarchibaldo@gmail.com> wrote:I am also waiting for Joe's choice.When he announces it, I will support the ticket.On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 3:30 AM FV wrote:I'm waiting for his choice . When he announces it , it will be my choice.On Sun, Aug 2, 2020, 12:25 AM Alan Archibald <alanarchibaldo@gmail.com> wrote:On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 11:13 PM FV wrote:Because in the end he has to live with and work with his decision.I don't think you're answering my question. Should Joe make his choice with no other input. And if he accepts the input of others, in what way are they depriving him of his ultimate ability to decide? It feels to me like your really trying to keep people out of the decision-making process. Do you want to keep everyone out? Or just certain people?I also think he should choose the Cabinet he wants and the AG he wants and the the Supreme Court Justices he wants. Thats what I do when I choose him. When you choose Joe, you're representing yourself. You're not choosing a representative for the whole nation. And is Joe alone - in isolation - best able to put together the winning ticket?Give him my trust to choose the best to surround him. I believe Joe will choose the best candidate more surely if he listens to the views of others. And no one's views -- certainly not yours - come independent of trying to get what the person expressing the view wants. It seems that you're trying to oversimplify this process because the complexity of making decisions on behalf of 330,000,000 other people can become too much.I could choose who I'd like but to what end. It just doesn't matter.On Sat, Aug 1, 2020, 10:55 PM Alan Archibald <alanarchibaldo@gmail.com> wrote:Dear F,In politics generally -- but especially in this election where so much hangs in the balance -- I think decisions should be made collaboratively.The more well-informed input there is during a decision-making process, the better.Clearly no one is going to force a decision down Biden's throat.In the end, it will be Joe's choice no matter what.In what way do you see someone -- or some group of people -- taking the decision away from Joe?This side of Joe's veep decision, are you confident Joe would make the best choice in isolation.Politics is, by its nature, about... well... politicking.I see no escape from that politicking.Nor do I see the advisability of trying to escape.PS For someone who has had such strong feelings about the necessity of choosing Joe as the Democratic presidential clinic, I don't see why you think people should not have similarly strong feelings about the vice-presidential candidate. Nor do I see why people should keep their veep feelings to themselves.On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 9:14 PM FV wrote:I think he should pick whoever he wants.On Sat, Aug 1, 2020, 11:03 AM Alan Archibald <alanarchibaldo@gmail.com> wrote:---------- Forwarded message ---------
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