Pax on both houses

The best is enemy of the good. The profoundest truths are paradoxical.

Pages

Saturday, December 5, 2015

Winston Churchill On The "Dreadful Curses Of Mohammedanism"

Claim:   Winston Churchill wrote about the "dreadful curses of Mohammedanism" in his 1899 book The River Wars. 

Alan: I am reluctant to post this Snopes' article on Churchill's view of Islam. 

Any justification for fanning the flame of hate will have vile outcome no matter how well "justified" it seems. 

"Love Your Enemies. Do Good To Those Who Hate You," Luke 6: 27-42
http://paxonbothhouses.blogspot.com/2013/02/love-your-enemies-do-good-to-those-who.html

"Martin Luther King Jr. On Hatred, Violence, Love and Jesus "The Way"

http://paxonbothhouses.blogspot.com/2014/11/martin-luther-king-jr-on-hatred.html

Yeshua Excoriates Fellow Pharisees: "The Woe Passages"
http://paxonbothhouses.blogspot.com/2013/08/yeshua-excoriates-fellow-pharisees-woe.html


Even so, every human institution is a mixed bag and there is significant truth in what Churchill says.

If dogma is a religion's genotype and "culture" religion's phenotypic expression, we must take social, psychological, economic and political outcomes into account.

The Phenotypic Expression Of Religion Matters More Than Its Dogmatic Genotype
http://paxonbothhouses.blogspot.com/2012/02/the-phenotypic-expression-of-religion.html

The situation is akin to needed criticism of fundamentalist Christianity and priestly pederasty in the Catholic church.

"Bad Religion: A Compendium"
http://paxonbothhouses.blogspot.com/2014/04/bad-religion-compendium.html

"Any Religion That Needs Fear To Thrive Is Bad Religion"
http://paxonbothhouses.blogspot.com/2012/02/any-religion-that-needs-fear-to-thrive.html

"Terror And The Other Religions"
http://paxonbothhouses.blogspot.com/2014/04/terrorism-and-other-religions-juan-cole.html

"Spotlight," The Movie... And The Reality
http://paxonbothhouses.blogspot.com/2015/12/spotlight-movie-and-reality.html
\


Churchill on Islam


snopes
updated From the archive

TRUE


Example:   [Collected via e-mail, January 2015] 

Winston Churchill 1899: "Individual Muslims may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world." Is this a true quote?

Origins:   An obscure quote attributed to British statesman Winston Churchill has been circulating on the Internet since at least May 2013, when Missouri State Representative Rick Stream sent an e-mail to his colleagues warning about the dangers of Islam. That e-mail cited a passage said to have been taken from a speech by Churchill, as reproduced in his 1899 book The River War: An Historical Account of the Reconquest of the Soudan: 
I am sending the attached short speech from Winston Churchill, delivered by him in 1899 when he was a young soldier and journalist. It probably sets out the current views of many but expressed in the wonderful Churchillian turn of phrase and use of the English language, of which he was a past master. Sir Winston Churchill was, without doubt, one of the greatest men of the late 19th and20th centuries.

He was a brave young soldier, a brilliant journalist, an extraordinary politician and statesman, a great war leader and Prime Minister, to whom the Western world must be forever in his debt. He was a prophet in his own time; He died on 24 January 1965, at the grand old age of 90 and, after a lifetime of service to his country, was accorded a State funeral.



How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries, improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.

A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement, the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.

Individual Muslims may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome.
The above-quoted passage did appear in The River War when it was first published as a two-volume set in 1899, but the selection was removed when the book was condensed into one volume and republished in 1902. While the one-volume abridged edition of The River War is still readily available, as of January 2015 the original two-volume 1899 version is much harder to find, a condition which may have led to confusion about the origins of the quote in question. However, the Churchill Centre has confirmed these words were indeed written by Winston Churchill. 

The passage as reproduced on the Internet typically incorporates one small omission, though: it elides Churchill's praise of "Moslems" as "brave and loyal soldiers" and covers the gap by combining the remaining part of the sentence with the previous one: 
Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen; all know how to die; but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world.

Posted by Alan Archibald at 11:09 AM
Email ThisBlogThis!Share to XShare to FacebookShare to Pinterest

No comments:

Post a Comment

Newer Post Older Post Home
Subscribe to: Post Comments (Atom)

Search This Blog

Followers

Blog Archive

  • ►  2025 (1)
    • ►  January (1)
  • ►  2023 (3)
    • ►  December (3)
  • ►  2021 (2)
    • ►  August (1)
    • ►  January (1)
  • ►  2020 (2119)
    • ►  December (1)
    • ►  August (31)
    • ►  July (226)
    • ►  June (354)
    • ►  May (329)
    • ►  April (411)
    • ►  March (276)
    • ►  February (295)
    • ►  January (196)
  • ►  2019 (2558)
    • ►  December (304)
    • ►  November (353)
    • ►  October (269)
    • ►  September (144)
    • ►  August (352)
    • ►  July (282)
    • ►  June (19)
    • ►  May (354)
    • ►  April (202)
    • ►  March (58)
    • ►  February (2)
    • ►  January (219)
  • ►  2018 (5420)
    • ►  December (412)
    • ►  November (447)
    • ►  October (549)
    • ►  September (381)
    • ►  August (499)
    • ►  July (587)
    • ►  June (486)
    • ►  May (559)
    • ►  April (421)
    • ►  March (291)
    • ►  February (366)
    • ►  January (422)
  • ►  2017 (6001)
    • ►  December (481)
    • ►  November (516)
    • ►  October (586)
    • ►  September (465)
    • ►  August (487)
    • ►  July (501)
    • ►  June (404)
    • ►  May (586)
    • ►  April (475)
    • ►  March (567)
    • ►  February (514)
    • ►  January (419)
  • ►  2016 (5112)
    • ►  December (410)
    • ►  November (420)
    • ►  October (320)
    • ►  September (357)
    • ►  August (563)
    • ►  July (581)
    • ►  June (289)
    • ►  May (527)
    • ►  April (379)
    • ►  March (388)
    • ►  February (460)
    • ►  January (418)
  • ▼  2015 (4471)
    • ▼  December (395)
      • While Fighting Regulation, "Big Oil" Braced For Gl...
      • Stephen Colbert: "If Girls Feel Good About Themsel...
      • 162 Top Experts Provide New Ranking Of American Pr...
      • Obama To Begin Last Year In Office With Executive ...
      • The Bible's Apparent Promise Of Armageddon Is Cons...
      • Seinfeld And Obama Drive A '63 Corvette For Coffee...
      • Are Republicans Insane? Jeb Bush Says Trump Is "A ...
      • Why Is "Affluenza" Seen As A Derangement Of Childr...
      • Virgina Woolf: Why The Best Mind Is The Androgynou...
      • Florida Woman Mistakes Daughter For Intruder, Shoo...
      • "Black Privilege" (Video)
      • Guns In Home Make Suicide 5X More Likely. Suicides...
      • Good Guy With A Gun Makes It All Better
      • Admit It: "Star Wars: The Force Awakens" Stinks --...
      • Here Is Every Crazy, Insane, Terrible, Genius, Inf...
      • If Tamir Rice Were White, He Would Not Have Been E...
      • Federal Judge: Drinking Tea & Shopping At Gardenin...
      • Obama's Skin Was Darkened In 2008 GOP Ads: Dog Whi...
      • Political Compromise and Unbending Religious Idealism
      • Irish Spinstress, c, 1890
      • Most Police Officers Killed In Line Of Duty Were T...
      • N.Y. Crime Stats Hit New Low, But Residents Say Th...
      • NPR: Chicago Officer Who Shot Teen 16 Times Pleads...
      • Tamir Rice: How Often Do Cops Use Lethal Force Due...
      • The Role Of Bill Clinton In A Hillary-Donald Match-Up
      • 2015 Mass Shootings In The United States: "The Sky...
      • In The United States, Crime Is Down, Anxiety Is Up
      • Remember When Ebola Was The Harbinger Of Apocalyps...
      • Til 5000 B.C. The Irish Genome Had Mid-Eastern Roo...
      • Shooting Of Tamir Rice: Highlighted Passages In Th...
      • A Year Of Reckoning: U.S. Police Kill Nearly 1000 ...
      • Second Amendment Evangelists Believe A Flood Of Gu...
      • Dunning-Kruger Effect: Stupid People Don't Know Th...
      • Giant Squid Captured On New Close-Up Video
      • The United States Of Barbaria: 27 Americans Shot D...
      • Jimmy Fallon Weighs In: Chris Christie Spent $82K ...
      • Invasion Of The Hedge Fund Almonds
      • Should We Let Bark Beetles Decimate Our Western Pi...
      • Heart Of Agave: How A Renegade Optometrist Is Defy...
      • Chicago Carnage: Trigger-Happy Cops Kill Even More...
      • Just-Discovered Poem, Written July, 2012
      • GOP Candidates Deliberately Lie To Curry Favor Wit...
      • The People Who "Want Their Country Back" Must Wres...
      • When Americans "Get Their Country Back"
      • New Yorker Cartoon: Where To Turn: Even The Best O...
      • New Yorker Cartoon: The Comforts Of Home
      • New Yorker Cartoon: "It's An Evil Wind That Blows ...
      • New Yorker Cartoon: Spooky Close To The Heart Of F...
      • New Yorker Cartoon: It Takes A Village Full Of Idiots
      • New Yorker Cartoon: What We're Doing, And What We ...
      • New Yorker Cartoon: Groundskeeping At The Vatican;...
      • Immigrants Threatening Your Way Of Life?
      • Made In The Image Of God
      • Bernie Sander's Platform
      • Rape Due To Provocative Clothing
      • New Yorker Cartoon: Epistemology And The Modern Im...
      • Donald Trump Wooing Voters
      • Overkill: An Avalanche Of Unnecessary Medical Care...
      • Anne Lamott: "Trappings And Charm Wear Off... Let ...
      • Growing Up In Negroland
      • What Happens To Kids When They "Grow Up"
      • "Trouble Will Soon Be Over," Chris Thomas King
      • Fury Of The Right Falls On Ryan
      • Haaretz: Before Donald Trump's Anti-Muslim Rhetori...
      • Haaretz: Jeb Bush More Offended By Trump's Bad Man...
      • Jimmy Carter On Pharisaism And How Quickly We Conc...
      • With Schlonged, Donald Trump Tries To Harness The ...
      • "Kangaroo Care" Cuts Mortality By More Than A Thir...
      • Cold-Case-Clearing Sleuth Wonders If Mass Murderer...
      • Unarmed Black Schizophrenic Killed By Cop. Had He ...
      • 6 Ways Donald Trump's Wrestling Career Previewed H...
      • Bruce Springsteen's Tonight Show Appearance Stream...
      • Golden Retriever Video: There Will Be More Goldens...
      • Good King Wenceslas Wishes You A Happy St. Stephen...
      • Bernie Sanders Faults Media For Trump's Meteoric R...
      • Chesterton Advocates Violent Revolution To Prevent...
      • "The Real Reason Donald Trump Will Win the Republi...
      • Carlin Attacks Political Incorrectness, Coupled Wi...
      • "A Christmas Carol": Dickens' Inquiry Into The Con...
      • Exceptionally Robust And Light-Weight New Metal Cr...
      • Christmas Cards From Ayn Rand
      • Through The Looking Glass: Can A Cheap, Portable M...
      • A Free Lunch American Conservatives Approve Of
      • Frog Hospital Discussion: More Than 90% Of Trump S...
      • Stephen Colbert: Donald Trump's Populism "Very App...
      • Why "The Thinking Housewife" Is Mad
      • Idaho Cafeteria Worker Fired For Giving Away $1.70...
      • Think You Know Trump? Watch His Entire 1:17 Speech...
      • What Are The Funniest Hitler "Downfall" Parody Vid...
      • Women Pay More For Everything From Birth to Death,...
      • "The Edge Of Glory," Lady Gaga Live Performance On...
      • Fox News' New War On Truth: This Is Why Trump And ...
      • A Look Back At The Crack-Pot Lunacy Of Gringo Cons...
      • "The Hateful Eight," Quentin Tarantino Is Bold, Go...
      • Annie Dillard: What We Can -- And Can't -- Learn F...
      • Trump At Record 39% In New Poll. All Other Candida...
      • The Vatican Declares "The Blues Brothers" A "Catho...
      • Rush Limbaugh: "Disband The Republican Party" For ...
      • The Height Of Beatlemania: "Twist And Shout," Melb...
      • Christians Were The First To Make War On Christmas...
    • ►  November (395)
    • ►  October (496)
    • ►  September (316)
    • ►  August (387)
    • ►  July (360)
    • ►  May (288)
    • ►  April (338)
    • ►  March (429)
    • ►  February (540)
    • ►  January (527)
  • ►  2014 (6289)
    • ►  December (489)
    • ►  November (564)
    • ►  October (328)
    • ►  September (460)
    • ►  August (620)
    • ►  July (630)
    • ►  June (622)
    • ►  May (296)
    • ►  April (496)
    • ►  March (629)
    • ►  February (470)
    • ►  January (685)
  • ►  2013 (5286)
    • ►  December (706)
    • ►  November (714)
    • ►  October (839)
    • ►  September (629)
    • ►  August (249)
    • ►  July (579)
    • ►  June (34)
    • ►  May (168)
    • ►  April (451)
    • ►  March (352)
    • ►  February (314)
    • ►  January (251)
  • ►  2012 (2162)
    • ►  December (309)
    • ►  November (243)
    • ►  October (422)
    • ►  September (294)
    • ►  August (271)
    • ►  July (198)
    • ►  June (59)
    • ►  May (133)
    • ►  April (79)
    • ►  March (65)
    • ►  February (54)
    • ►  January (35)
  • ►  2011 (114)
    • ►  December (46)
    • ►  November (36)
    • ►  October (32)
Simple theme. Powered by Blogger.