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Wednesday, June 1, 2016

Crucial Presidential Debate Dialogue Between Rubio And Trump Over Trump "University" Scam

Watch Marco Rubio Call Out "The Donald" Over Trump "University" Scam

"Trump University: Yes, It Was A Massive Scam," National Review

Crucial Presidential Debate Dialogue Between Rubio And Trump Over Trump "University" Scam


Crucial Presidential Debate Dialogue Between Rubio And Trump Over Trump "University" Scam
RUBIO: That's what Donald has done throughout his career.
TRUMP: (INAUDIBLE)
RUBIO: Well, he did, and that's why Trump University...
TRUMP: ... That's not right...
RUBIO: ... Is so relevant here. I saw this video last week where he's sitting in front of a camera saying we're going to hire the best people, and I'm going to hand pick them. There are going to be hand picked and instructors, the best instructors in the world. One of them, but the way, was the manager at a Buffalo Wild Wing. And, that's who they hired to do this, and people borrowed money, and they signed up for this fake university.
And, these people owe all this money now, and they got nothing in return for it, but you are willing to say whatever you had to say...
(BELL RINGING)
RUBIO: ... To get them to give you their money...
KELLY: ... Go ahead, Mr. Trump...
TRUMP: ... We'll find out when we have the (INAUDIBLE)...
RUBIO: ... And, we're not going to do that to our country...
TRUMP: ... And, by the way, just so you understand...
(APPLAUSE)
TRUMP: ... This is a case I could have settled very easily, but I don't settle cases very easily when I'm right. Ninety-eight percent approval rating, we have an "A" from the Better Business Bureau...
RUBIO: ... That's false...
TRUMP: ... We have a 98 percent approval rating from the people who took the course. We have an "A" from the Better Business Bureau. And, people like it. Now, he's saying they didn't learn.
We have many, many people that will be witnesses. Again, I don't settle cases. I don't do it because that's why I don't get sued very often, because I don't settle, unlike a lot of other people.
We have a situation where we will win in court...
(BELL RINGING) TRUMP: But, many of the people that are witnesses did tremendously well, and made a lot of money...
RUBIO: ... That's false...
TRUMP: ... By taking the course.
KELLY: Go ahead, Senator.
TRUMP: You're going to see, you don't know...
RUBIO: ... The Better Business Bureau gave it a "D" minus.
TRUMP: You're going to see, you're going to see.
KELLY: ... It's Senator Rubio's turn...
TRUMP: ... No, no. Before they had the information...
RUBIO: ... Go on my website, Marco Rubio.com...
TRUMP: ... Before they had the information...
KELLY: ... Senator Rubio, standby, let him finish his point, and then I'll give you the floor...
TRUMP: ... Before they had the information it got -- it is right now an "A", once they had the information...
RUBIO: ... (INAUDIBLE) this anymore.
TRUMP: ... The only reason that is was a "D" was because we didn't care -- we didn't give them the information...
RUBIO: ... A third of the people (INAUDIBLE)...
TRUMP: ... When they got the information it became an "A"...
KELLY: ... With respect -- wait. With respect...
TRUMP: ... Marco you don't know (INAUDIBLE)...
KELLY: ... With respect, we went back and looked at this...
TRUMP: ... Yes.
KELLY: The rating from the Better Business Bureau was a "D" minus...
(CHEERING) (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: ... (INAUDIBLE)
KELLY: ... that's the last publicly available rating in 2010, and it was the result of a number of complaints they had...
TRUMP: ... But it was elevated to an "A"...
UNIDENTIFIABLE MALE: (INAUDIBLE)
KELLY: ... That's never been publicly available.
TRUMP: ... I can give it to you. I can give it to you tomorrow..
KELLY: ... Let's just bring the viewers up to speed, let's just bring the viewers up to speed.
TRUMP: ... It was elevated to an "A".
KELLY: Let me just set the record, and then you guys can have at it. There was Trump University, which was a business that you started, and it was marketed...
TRUMP: ... Small business...
KELLY: ... to many people, and now there is a class-action of over 5,000 plaintiffs against you, Mr. Trump...
TRUMP: ... Right...
KELLY: ... And, it involves veterans, and it involves teachers, and it involves so-called little guys, working class, and lower- working class and middle class who say that they were fleeced, who say that it was as scam. The class has been certified, and in that case you counter-sued the lead plaintiff alleging that you were being defamed.
That case was thrown out against her...
TRUMP: ... The lead plaintiff is now getting out of the case because it's so bad for her...
KELLY: ... But, what happened was...
TRUMP: ... Excuse me, the lead plaintiff signed a letter saying how great it was, and it on tape saying how great it was.
KELLY: OK, no, but -- standby. But, what happened in that case was you counter-sued her. The court threw out your counter-suit, and made you pay almost $800,000 dollars in legal fees of hers, and you made the same argument about 98 percent of the people being happy with Trump University. And, that woman in particular signing a survey saying she liked it while someone was standing over her shoulder...
TRUMP: ... She's trying to get out of the case. She's trying to get out of the case...
KELLY: ... And this is what -- standby, this is what the Court of Appeals found. They said that the plaintiffs against you are like the Madoff victims...
TRUMP: Oh, give me a break... KELLy: ... This is what the Court of Appeals said.
TRUMP: Give me a break.
KELLY: This is what the court of appeals said.
TRUMP: Give me a break.
KELLY: They found that victims of con artists often sing the praises of their victimizers until they realize they have been fleeced.
TRUMP: You know what, let's see what happens in court. This is a civil case. Very easy to have settled. Could settle it now. Very easy to have settled. Let's see what happens at the end of a couple years when this case is over, OK?
KELLY: It has been going for five years.
TRUMP: Yes, it has been going for a long time.
KELLY: Go ahead, Senator.
RUBIO: I spoke to one of the victims yesterday.
TRUMP: We'll win the case.
RUBIO: I spoke to one of the victims yesterday.
TRUMP: One, one of the victims.
RUBIO: No, there are several. Obviously there are so many, I can't talk to them every day. I spoke to one of them, he told me exactly what happened. They signed up for this course because they believed Mr. Trump was this fantastic businessman, that Donald is going to teach them the tricks of the trade.
They signed up. They paid $15,000 for this course. They were asked for additional money for this course. If they really wanted the real secrets of success, they had to pay even more money, and so they did.
And you know what they got in these courses? Stuff you can pull off of Zillow. When they finally realized what a scam it was, they asked for their money back.
And you refused to give them their money back. Why don't you tonight...
TRUMP: I gave many people their money back. RUBIO: Then why don't you tonight say you're going to give the money back to everybody who wants...
TRUMP: Let me just...
(CROSSTALK)
KELLY: OK. Senator Rubio, let him answer.
(CROSSTALK)
KELLY: Let him answer.
Go ahead, Mr. Trump.
TRUMP: We will see who's right at the end of a few years. But all of the -- almost all of the people, many, many people signed what's called the report card at the end, did you like the course, how did you like it.
Almost all of them said it was terrific, OK? With letters, with this. Some of them are on tape saying it was terrific. Let's see what happens at the end of three years.
KELLY: With respect, Mr. Trump, one-third of the plaintiffs in that case demanded refunds. So it's not the case that 98 percent were...
TRUMP: I gave some refunds to people because if they asked for the refunds in a certain period of time, and we gave refunds to people.
KELLY: OK.
TRUMP: But let's see what happens at the end of three years. Let's see who's right.
KELLY: Still a pending litigation.
(CROSSTALK)
TRUMP: It's called pending litigation.
RUBIO: Megyn, this is why this is relevant to this election.
KELLY: All right. Senator Rubio then Senator Cruz. Go ahead.
RUBIO: This is why, because he's trying to do to the American voter what he did to the people that signed up for this course. He's making promises he has no intention of keeping. And it won't just be $36,000 that they lose, it's our country that's at stake here.
The future of the United States and the most important election in a generation, and he's trying to con people into giving them their vote just like he conned these people into giving him their money. TRUMP: Let me tell you the real con artist. Excuse me. Excuse me. The real con artist is Senator Marco Rubio who was elected in Florida and who has the worst voting record in the United States Senate.
He doesn't go to vote. He's absent. He doesn't go. Now, the people of Florida can't stand him. He couldn't get elected dogcatcher. The people of Florida -- the people of Florida -- and by the way, I know he's going to spend $25 million on ads. Without that he wouldn't have a chance. He's 20 points south.
The people in Florida wouldn't elect him dogcatcher. He couldn't get any -- he's right now 21 points down to me. And, you know...
KELLY: OK.
TRUMP: ... again, there will be a lot of advertising. It's the only thing that might save him. But I doubt it.
RUBIO: Notice that's not an answer.

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