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Tuesday, November 8, 2016

Will Trump "Stay On The Stump" Even If He Loses?

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Dear F,

Thanks for your email.

I very much doubt Trump will stay on the stump although it would be a seductive "crystalization point" for Donald's new "News" Network.

If he does stay on the stump, I see real possibility of an "upside."

Those Trump followers who were chiefly interested in having him occupy The Oval Office (as opposed to getting the visceral buzz of "being stoked") will quickly fall away, leaving behind crowds comprised of raving lunatics - people so crazy they even look crazy.

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If this scenario were to unfold, I think Trump's "staying on the campaign trail" would result in clear - and ongoing - revelation of just how crazy Trump and his Base are. 

It would be lovely to see Trump trash himself and his loons  by creating circumstances that would provoke such national nausea that sickened citizens would reject The Despicable One as surely as "the good Germans" rejected Hitler (and his agenda) at the end of World War II.

Don't forget....

It is a miracle that The Universe constellated circumstances that vomited forth The Only Candidate Hillary could beat.

And, mirabile dictu, Universe/God accomplished this end with the indispensable help of "Good Christians."

Thank you Jesus!

Perhaps this miracle will have even longer legs... and Donald will definitively degrade himself so that his own perseveration reveals The Loser he is.

Here's hoping...

Love

A


Love

A


On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:15 AM, FV wrote:
Dear A
Latest post election whisper is if Trump looses not only will he not concede but he will continue to campaign to his loving crowds because he loves the adulation and power he gets from them. Unless the media cuts him off he can be in our sight for years. Hopefully he will have damaged the Trump business to the point of another bankruptcy and he will loose some of the lawsuits against him and he can become a forgotten man. Except he still won't go away. This has to be a slam dunk.
Love

F

On Nov 8, 2016 9:59 AM, "Alan Archibald" <alanarchibaldo@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Fred,

Thanks for Frog Hospital.

How was Hawaii?

I think Trump is a dangerous man. With his finger on The Button, I believe The Despicable One is more dangerous than Hitler in the '30s.

He is not likely to perpetrate overt racial/ethnic crimes but he will make spiteful Americans feel good about their biliousness. 

He already has. 


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I do not know if it is advisable to attack Trump with pejoratives.

In any event, I don't need to recite "my litany." 

However, I will point out that, "from the beginning" --- and despite my conviction that a Trump presidency would make America a coarser, more hateful, more violent place by inflaming the lesser angels of our nature --- I have argued that Trump has been spot on in his no-holds-barred criticism of The Iraq War.

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Yesterday afternoon, while canvassing for Hillary in the Orange County countryside, I had an insight.

Although the details can be debated, Trump did oppose The Iraq War early and vocally.

"Israeli War Historian, Martin van Creveld's Startling Commentary On The Iraq War"


Excerpt: "For misleading the American people, and launching the most foolish war since Emperor Augustus in 9 B.C sent his legions into Germany and lost them, Bush deserves to be impeached and, once he has been removed from office, put on trial along with the rest of the president’s men. If convicted, they’ll have plenty of time to mull over their sins." War historian Martin van Creveld is the only non-U.S. author whose writings are obligatory reading by America's Officer Corps."

I doubt Trump had anything more than a "sound bite view" of Vietnam although he expended considerable energy "getting out of it" with a laughable medical deferment for bone spurs even though he was a very active athlete in college, participating in baseball, tennis and squash.

But back to yesterday afternoon's insight...

What percentage of American conservatives applauded Iraq and Vietnam just because "warfare is what American conservatives reflexively do." 




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And what percentage of those conservative cheerleaders now look back regretfully on those two random fits of decerebrate belligerence?

I would venture that at least a third of American conservatives fall in the category of "kneejerk cheerleaders" for any invasion pumped by Uncle Sam's war drum.

According to a 2015 NBC poll, 44% of Republicans already regret Iraq and I would LOVE to be "a fly inside the skull" of the other 56% to see exactly how their synapses are firing! http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/iraq-turmoil/not-worth-it-huge-majority-regret-iraq-war-exclusive-poll-n139686

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I feel certain that the percentage of dependably-belligerent conservatives who reflect on recently-concluded warmaking and say "it just wasn't worth it" can be taught to see it wasn't worth it in the first place.

I suggest that all necessary "lessons" can be imbued by high-quality secondary school courses in American History and World History - requisite courses for high-school graduation.

By devising such an educational process, we could avoid the lion's share of "young buck folly," puerile eruptions of dimwittedness ultimately perped by old men "giving head" to young boys' testosterone surges. 

"Do War's Really Defend America's Freedom?"
(Homage Marine Commandant, Major General Smedley Butler)

If nothing else, make every high school student write two decent essays; one on Major General Smedley Butler, the other on General William Westmoreland or some other representative of military brass. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Westmoreland

To the extent that "America doesn't win any more" it is because we are an aggressively ignorant people and The Body Politic, on balance, wants it that way.

We could drastically enhance American civilization by requiring a two-year high school course in American history in which one year's textbook would be Howard Zinn's "A People's History Of The United States" while the other year would employ any right-of-center text written by a professor from one of America's top hundred colleges and universities. 

Better yet, devise a required three-year American history sequence with a different text each year; one by Zinn, one by a right-winger and the thrid by a middle-of-the-roader.

You can count on unprecedented political opposition, mostly from "conservatives" who know in their bones (if not in their brains) that their identity-survival depends on stupidity. 
Pax tecum

Alan

"A People's History Of The United States" By Howard Zinn (Entire Text Freely Available Online)


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(I wish Mencken had said "most of them imaginary.")


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On Sat, Nov 5, 2016 at 3:36 PM, Fred Owens <froghospital911@gmail.com> wrote:


FROG HOSPITAL -- November 5, 2016
Anything Can Happen
By Fred Owens
Anything can happen this election day. My forecast is a narrow victory for Hillary Clinton, but your guess is as good as mine.
Hillary has the lead, but Trump is closing fast. All the news is about sex and emails, but does that matter? You look around and ask "Are you better off?"
Employment and wages are up. Crime is down, except on the south side of Chicago. Putin makes a lot of noise, is he really a threat? The civil war rages in Syria. Now there's a serious problem, I admit that. But here in our country, people are making a living -- unless they're shooting heroin in rural Ohio.
It's not a disaster and that means Hillary wins, but as I said, anything can happen. I am seeing, on Facebook  and around town here in Santa Barbara, the emergence of closet Trumpistas, more than I expected. Trump will finish strong, but he will finish second.
Truth
We should remind people that it is a secret ballot and that a polite answer to who are you gonna vote for is none of your business. I'm voting for Hillary, but I don't have to tell you that.... With that in mind I encourage people to vote for whomever they think will make the best President. If you think this election is a joke, then I support your decision to vote for Wavy Gravy. I even celebrate your right to abstain from voting. In sum, I do not believe it is possible to "waste" your vote. Your vote is your coin, spend it as you choose.
And no matter how you vote, I support your right to complain about the results.....
You do not need my approval. I sure don't need yours.
What a country!
Disgusted, Discouraged and Disappointed. So many people say this about the election. Not me. I'm having a great time. I love a good fight. We're supposed to be living in a divided country --  what nonsense. I find it easy to make friends with people who don't agree with me.
The bad things are out there -- hatred and vile language  -- I don't want to seem all happy talk, but by and large people are not losing their minds.
Both candidates have proven themselves. Although they are of advanced age, being 69 and 70, they have both shown exceptional stamina. They talk and talk and talk. Then they go to another state and talk some more.  
It's true they lack wit or style. A good joke now and then would be appreciated.
Voting for Hillary
Like millions of Americans I am choosing Clinton because she is not Trump. She is highly over-rated. She has poor political skills. She is the first presidential candidate to be over-qualified for the job. She has been in the public domain since I was in high school, like forever. But she has that outstanding quality of not being Trump, so she gets my vote.
And when you get to substance, I actually agree with her on a lot of issues. She tends to moderation and middle of the road positions. So do I.
Trump is just a little bit too much for me. You can heap pejorative adjectives on him, but I will not do that. I just think he should not be President.
A Pledge
Somebody is going to lose. Somebody is going to be in a sour mood come Wednesday morning. I pledge to extend the hand of friendship to one and all when this is over. If we win, no  gloating. If we lose, no crying. That's life. Don't get mad, just get over it.
thank you,
Fred


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