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Saturday, October 31, 2015

Ben Carson's Clueless Assertion That Armed German Jews Could Have Prevented The Holocaust

Republican presidential candidate Dr. Ben Carson said: “You know, mid to late ’30s, they started a program to disarm the people and by mid to late ’40s, look what had happened.” 
Republican presidential candidate Dr. Ben Carson said: “You know, mid to late ’30s, they started a program to disarm the people and by mid to late ’40s, look what had happened.” 


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PolitiFact: Ben Carson's Nazi claim a mix of bad history, bad math

Republican Ben Carson has been criticized for suggesting that gun control enabled the rise of the Nazis and led to the extermination of 6 million Jews during the Holocaust.
But does he have a point?
In his book, A More Perfect Union, Carson wrote that "German citizens were disarmed by their government in the late 1930s, and by the mid 1940s Hitler's regime had mercilessly slaughtered six million Jews and numerous others whom they considered inferior.
"Through a combination of removing guns and disseminating deceitful propaganda, the Nazis were able to carry out their evil intentions with relatively little resistance," he wrote.
Carson reiterated that argument at least twice — in an Oct. 8 interview with CNN host Wolf Blitzer, and then again in a speech at the National Press Club.
"You know, mid to late '30s, they started a program to disarm the people and by mid to late '40s, look what had happened," he said at the Press Club.
PolitiFact decided to analyze Carson's claim on its Truth-O-Meter.
German gun laws
As the Nazi Party rose to power in Germany, it inherited a 1928 gun registration law that had replaced a total ban on gun ownership imposed on a defeated Germany after World War I. The 1928 law created a permit system to own and sell firearms and ammunition.
"But this order was followed quite rarely, so that largely, only newly bought weapons became registered," said Dagmar Ellerbrock, an expert on German gun policies at the Dresden Technical University. "At that time, most men, and many women, still owned the weapons they acquired before or during the first World War."
When they came to power, the Nazis used whatever gun records they had to seize weapons from their enemies, but Ellerbock told us the files included very few of the firearms in circulation.
"In my records, I found many Jews who well into the late 1930s possessed guns," Ellerbock told us.
The Nazis adopted a new gun law in 1938. According to an analysis by Bernard Harcourt, a professor at Columbia University School of Law, it loosened gun ownership rules in several ways.
It deregulated the buying and selling of rifles, shotguns and ammunition. It made handguns easier to own by allowing anyone with a hunting license to buy, sell or carry one at any time. (You didn't need to be hunting.) It also extended the permit period from one year to three and gave local officials more discretion in letting people under 18 get a gun.
The regulations to implement this law, rather than the law itself, did impose new limits on one group: Jews.
On Nov. 11, 1938, the German minister of the interior issued "Regulations Against Jews Possession of Weapons." Not only were Jews forbidden to own guns and ammunition, they couldn't own "truncheons or stabbing weapons."
In addition to the restrictions, Ellerbrock said the Nazis had already been raiding Jewish homes and seizing weapons.
"The gun policy of the Nazis can hardly be compared to the democratic procedures of gun regulations by law," Ellerbrock told us. "It was a kind of special administrative practice (Sonderrecht), which treated people in different ways according to their political opinion or according to 'racial identity' in Nazi terms."
The power of a police state
In short, Nazi-era Germany imposed greater gun restrictions for Jews (and other perceived enemies) at the same time it loosened gun restrictions for other groups.
But that's not what Carson said. He made a more sweeping claim about Nazis disarming German citizens.
Carson then goes on to say that the lack of guns allowed the Nazis to "carry out their evil intentions with relatively little resistance."
But a key turning point in the Nazi path to power illustrates that the availability of guns was not a pivotal issue.
Paramilitary organizations were part of the Nazi operation from its earliest days in the mid 1920s. The Sturmabteilung, or Brownshirts, was a founding Nazi street fighting organization. Another outfit, the Schutzstaffel, or SS, provided protection to Nazi officials as they moved about the country. After Hitler won office, the SS under Heinrich Himmler became part of Hitler's inner circle, and Himmler felt the Sturmabteilung was too difficult to control. He and his collaborators concocted a rumor that the Sturmabteilung was plotting a coup.
In 1934, in a span of three days, Himmler's SS units killed between 85 and 200 Sturmabteilung leaders and other perceived enemies.
Hitler himself oversaw the arrest of one of his oldest comrades, Ernst Rohm, the head of the Sturmabteilung. In the middle of that arrest, a truckload of armed Sturmabteilung troops rolled up, but not a shot was fired. Rohm was executed days later.
The staff at the German Historical Institute wrote that with this operation, Hitler had managed to "legitimize outright murder on a large scale — without any legal proceedings whatsoever — and that the country largely accepted the Nazi propaganda that presented this strike as necessary."
Our ruling
Carson said that under the Nazis, "German citizens were disarmed by their government in the late 1930s," which allowed the Nazis to "carry out their evil intentions with relatively little resistance."
This is a misreading of history on two levels. First, German citizens as a whole were not disarmed by the Nazis. Jews and other supposed enemies of the state were subject to having their weapons seized. But for most German citizens, the Nazi period was one in which gun regulations were loosened, not tightened.
Second, a lack of guns was not the issue. If the majority of Germans had wanted to use these guns to fight the Nazis, they could have. But they didn't. Carson ignores that the Nazis enjoyed significant popular support, or at least, broad acquiescence.
We rate this claim False.
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PolitiFact: Ben Carson's Nazi claim a mix of bad history, bad math 10/29/15 [Last modified: Saturday, October 31, 2015 3:56pm] 

2 comments:

  1. I just wanted to point out that when this happened..On Nov. 11, 1938, the German minister of the interior issued "Regulations Against Jews Possession of Weapons." Not only were Jews forbidden to own guns and ammunition, they couldn't own "truncheons or stabbing weapons." ""nov. 11, 1938"" its like duh! what happened on Nov November 9-10, 1938.???? any guess? oh yeah crystal night! or kristalnacht. ok everyone following? ok What triggered the night of broken glass (Kristallnacht) ? any guess? The shooting of Ernst vom Rath, a German diplomat, by Herschel Grynszpan in Paris on November 7, 1938!!!!!! by a jew!!!!!!!!!! everything the germans did to the jews was always in retaliation for something they did like the german boycott of 1933! please people pull the blinders off! wake up stop getting your history dripped dripped to you by the controled media!

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  2. Wilhelm Gustloff (30 January 1895 – 4 February 1936) was the founder of the Swiss NSDAP/AO at Davos. He remained its leader from 1932 until he was assassinated in 1936. Gustloff was shot and killed in 1936 by David Frankfurter, a Croatian Jewish student this is why the jews where being disarmed in germany!

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