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Thursday, January 31, 2013

Orthodox Jews In Opposition To The Zionist State Of Israel

The Rebbe Nishmoso Eden
Sholom Dovber Schneersohn 
(Hebrewשלום דובער שניאורסאהן‎; 1860-10-24 OS - 1920-03-21 NS) 
was an Orthodox rabbi and the fifth Rebbe (spiritual leader) of the Chabad Lubavitch chasidic movement. 
He is also known as "the Rebbe nishmosei eiden" (whose soul is in Eden) and as "the Rebbe Rashab" (for Reb Sholom Ber).
His teachings represent the emergence of an emphasis on outreach that later Chabad Rebbes would develop into a major theme.[1] In Chabad thought, such as described in the talks of the last Rebbe Menachem Mendel Schneerson, each of the 7 leaders of Chabad successively "drew down", broadened, explained and articulated the teachings of Chasidic philosophy more fully into intellectual grasp. The achievement of the founder of Chabad Shneur Zalman of Liadi, was to articulate the new "Torah of the Baal Shem Tov" in intellectual analysis. From his unique approach derives the name of "Chabad", standing for the intellectual faculties of the soul. In this context, Chabad lore, and the last Rebbe, describes Sholom Dovber Schneersohn as the "Maimonides of Chasidus", as with his teachings the ideas reach a new level of intellectual synthesis and philosophical grasp. Just as Maimonides in Medieval Jewish Philosophy (Hakira) and legal codification (Halacha) brought new comprehension, clarity and analytical synthesis to Jewish thought, so did Schneur Zalman ,and even more so Sholom Dovber, in the inner mystical dimensions of Judaism expressed in Hasidus. Illustrative of this is his plan, in founding the Lubavitch yeshiva system Tomchei Temimim, that the students should learn Chabad Chasidic texts "with pilpul", the Talmudic method of logical in-depth analysis.
Not via our desire did we leave the land of Israel,
and not via our power will we come back to the land of Israel. 

What the rabbis said about zionism




It would be out of the question to publish all the utterances of Gedolei Yisroel [Torah authorities] 
during the last century, the period of the emergence of Zionism on the Jewish horizon, because all the Gedolei Yisroel sternly opposed the movement aimed at undermining the Jewish religion and the Jewish essence
[The Torah] forbids us to strive for the reunion or possession of the land by any but spiritual means
Rabbi S. R. Hirsch
Not via our desire did we leave the land of Israel, 
and not via our power will we come back to the land of Israel. 
Rabbi S.D. Schneerson
[Zionists] want a state in order to make Jews into heretics. 
Rabbi C. Soloveichik
The Zionists have attacked the center point of Judaism. 
Rabbi V. Soloveichik
The root of Zionism is heresy and its branches can hardly be otherwise.

WHAT THE RABBIS SAID ABOUT ZIONISM  
IN THE PREVIOUS GENERATIONS

Once before the Neila prayer on Yom Kippur Rabbi Avraham Yoshe Freund of Mansod said:
"It is not because they are Zionists that they are evildoers. It is because they are evildoers that they are Zionists."

Rabbi Aharon Roth once said:
"It is a miracle that these evildoers don't command everyone to put on tefillin. 
It is possible that were they to do it, G-d forbid, it may be forbidden to put them on."

The Chazon Ish once said:
"If it is hard to understand the whole matter of the Golden Calf, by seeing the matter of the State, one can understand it. 
The matter of the State is similar to the Golden Calf"

Rabbi Elchonon Wasserman once said:
"It is certain as the sun shines that the Land will vomit the Zionists out, because the Land is the Palace of the King....
I don't say this either to curse or to bless, but because these are things which are written in the Torah and which will take place."

Rabbi Chaim Soloveitchik once said:
"The Zionists aren't taking Jews away from Judaism in order to have a State, 
THEY NEED A STATE IN ORDER TO TAKE JEWS AWAY FROM JUDAISM"

Rabbi Yechezkel Shraga Halberstam once said:
"When a Jew recites 'Hear O Israel, the Lord your G-d, the Lord is One' 
he should have in mind rejecting all idolatry in the world, including Zionism, which is also idolatry."

Rabbi Yissachar Dov of Belz once said:
" There could be, before the arrival of Mashiach, that the Satan should succeed, and the evildoers should get a State in the Land of Israel. 
Their state would be a big danger for every Jew in material and spiritual matters."

The Chafetz Chaim, Rabbi Israel Meir Hakohen once said:
"In my opinion it is clear that the Zionists are from the offspring of AMALEK."

Rabbi Yitzchak Zev Soloveitchik (Reb Velvel) once said:
"How can the little rabbis and heads of yeshivas take upon themselves the determination of things dealing with life and death? 
It is obvious that the partition will bring with it the anger and hostility of the Arabs and other nations of the world. 
This whole thing touches on the shedding of blood. 
HOW DO THEY HAVE THE ARROGANCE TO MAKE JUDGEMENTS DEALING WITH LIFE AND DEATH?

He also said: ]
"The Agudah is nothing, just money." Rabbi Moshe Leib Diskin once said: 
"The rabbis of the generation should gather together and issue a writ of excommunication against the Zionists and eject them from the Jewish People, 
and make decrees against their bread and wine, and to forbid marrying with them, 
JUST LIKE OUR SAGES DID WITH THE SAMARITANS."

Rabbi Shlomo Zalman Eherenreich once said:
"The Zionists brought us to the Holocaust. It is well known that it was possible to redeem Jews from the Nazis with money, 
and save many hundreds of thousands of Jews in Hungary from the fire. 
THE ZIONIST LEADERS WHO NOW SIT IN GOVERNMENT PREVENTED IT!"

Rabbi Shaul Brach of Kashoa once said:
"Before thinking up the idea of Zionism, Herzl wanted all Jews to convert to Christianity. 
When he was laughed at, he developed the second idea which was able to have more effect, 
since thousands of Jews began to believe they could be Jews without the Torah of Judaism."

"I am also surprised at the leaders of the Agudah who want thousands of Jews to move to Eretz Israel. 
How can they ignore the welfare of their children, since there is no other place on earth where there is so much heresy and sectarianism 
as in the Holy Land in our day."



Rabbi Yisroel Dovid Weiss 
Interview with the representative of ultra-orthodox Neturei-Karta,
an intensely anti Israel Jewish sect
Yisroel Dovid Weiss (born 1956), a United States Haredi Rabbi, is an activist and the spokesman


for Neturei Karta International, an anti-Zionist grouping of Haredi Jews.
Based in Monsey, New York, he believes that observant Jews should peacefully oppose the existence of the Israeli state:  "It would be forbidden for us to have a State, even if it would be in a land that is desolate and uninhabited." 

In the Interview with Fox the rabbi says:
"This was the main stream view of Jewish people worldwide".

Rabbi Weiss: This is the view that was shared by all religious leaders throughout the past hundred years, when the whole movement of Zionism was created, the concept – the ideology – of transforming Judaism from spirituality, a religion, into materialism a nationalistic goal to have a piece of land, all the rabbinical authorities said this is antithetical with what Judaism is all about – expressly forbidden by the Torah because we are in exile by God.
Cavuto: So, you shouldn't have a state? You shouldn't have a country? You shouldn't have a government?


We shouldn't have a state. We should be living amongst all the nations as the Jews were doing for two thousand years as loyal citizens, people who are serving God, emulating God with compassion . . .and the Talmud states clearly that if we will attempt to breach these oaths of God...it would lead to catastrophic results. Contrary to what people believe, that it's a religious conflict, we have been living for hundreds of years among Muslims and Arab communities without any UN human rights groups to watch…

Cavuto: Let me ask you this, Rabbi, was life better for the Jews prior to the creation of the Jewish state of Israel?

Weiss: 100%. In Palestine, we have the testimony of the Jewish community living there and other lands that they were living in harmony and they pleaded with the United Nations, in the documents we have, the chief Rabbi of Jerusalem said we do not want a Jewish state. The Muslim, Christian and Jewish inhabitants were ignored with the creation of the State . . .

Cavuto: Neverthless, you might not have had a country per se, but you were not a stranger to being abused or slaughtered over the millennia, particularly as recently as fifty sixty years ago?
Weiss: There is an issue of being killed because of anti-semitism, and then there's another issue where you antagonize and you create your anti-semitism through Zionism . . . in other words, it's not a free for all – you knock out your neighbors windows and yell anti-semitism.
Cavuto: I know you are an orthodox Jew, what do traditional Jews think of that position?
Weiss: [this is and was the mainstream view of Jewish people worldwide] 
Cavuto: I know it was. It isn't now. So what do they tell you now.
Weiss: Well. Lets talk about the religious point of view, because we are talking about Judaism, not about those who left the fold of Judaism.
The Jewish view is, the main stream view is, that, true, we shouldn't be having a state, but once it's created the Zionist propaganda that the Arabs want to throw every Jew into the ocean and there's a ingrained hate against the Jews, which they've convinced many Jews to believe, this is why they're fearful of returning the land . . .
Cavuto: Well you can't blame them, right, I mean you have the president of Iran who says the Holocaust never existed and if he had his druthers he'd destroy Israel and all the Jews.
Weiss: That's also patently false. He has a Jewish community in Iran and they haven't murdered them when they had the opportunity to . . .
Cavuto: So, you don't take him at his word that he would try to kill Jews?
Weiss: He would [want] the dismantling of the political state of Israel. In fact, we went, a whole group of Rabbis this last year to visit Iran, and we were taken up by the leaders, we met with the vice president, he [Ahmedinejad] was in Venezuela at the time, we met with religious leaders, all of them stated unequivocally that don't have a conflict with [Jews]
Cavuto: So as long as Israel exists, Rabbi, you think – just itching for trouble
Weiss: Jews are suffering, Palestinians and Leabanese are suffering . . . we pray for the speedy and peaceful dismantlment of the Jewish state.
Cavuto: It's interesting Rabbi, you don't hear that view often.
Fox News Video:   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JR6MyaN5jpY

http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/03/25/christian-right-propaganda-posters/

"Israel was created against the will of God, by atheists"

"We pray to God every day 
for the speedy, peaceful dismantlement 
of the state of Israel" 

 VIDEOS






Religious Jews against Zionism




We all lived the Holocaust. The people died because they were Jewish. Because they upheld God's teaching.

The following excerpt is from "Holy Heretics Blogspot" - http://holyheretics.blogspot.com/



"You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when..."




***

Alan: Although Anne Lamott popularized the above saying, she got it from Jesuit friend, Tom Weston.


Anne and Tom


Islam and Japan. (Another episode in "conservatism's" love affair with falsehood.)




Dear John,

Thanks for your email.

Sadly, "Islam and Japan" failed "the sniff test."

Even the anti-Islamic website, "Bare Naked Islam" gives "Islam and Japan" Four Pinocchios.

But before you read Bare Naked Islam's  account, check out Wikipedia's review of the same topic.

The anti-epistemology of "The Right" is breathtakingly brazen. 

Consider these peculiar beliefs:  that deliberate falsehood is a virtue; and that relentless mendacity is essential for the health of democracy. 

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Bare Naked Islam's response to the viral email re: ‘Islam and Japan’


There is a popular email going around that reveals how difficult the Japanese make it for Islam to take hold in Japan. Having lived in Japan some time ago, I have a bit of personal insight to add. So before you consider packing up and running off to Japan, take note of the following:

Did you Know????

Have you ever read in the newspaper that a political leader or a prime minister from an Islamic nation has visited Japan? (Hard to believe. Indonesia’s PM seems likely to have visited Japan)

Japan, a country keeping Islam at bay, Japan has put strict restrictions on Islam and ALL Muslims. (Japan puts strict restriction on ALL foreigners, period)

The reasons are:

a) Japan is the only nation that does not give citizenship to Muslims. (Japan makes it exceeding difficult, if not nearly impossible,  for any foreigner, Muslim or otherwise, to become a citizen)

b) In Japan permanent residency is not given to Muslims. (Rarely, if ever given to any other foreigners either)

c) There is a strong ban on the propagation of Islam in Japan. (Not that I could find)


TURKISH MOSQUE OF TOKYO

d) In the University of Japan, Arabic or any Islamic language is not taught.(There is no ‘University of Japan,’ but there are many universities in Japan, one of which I attended. Back then, Arabic was not taught at Waseda Univ, but I doubt that is the case today in every university)

e) One cannot import Koran published in Arabic language. (False)

f) According to data published by Japanese government, it has given temporary residency to only 2 lakhs Muslims, who need to follow the Japanese Law of the Land. These Muslims should speak Japanese and carry their religious rituals in their homes. (It is reported there are some 10,000+ Muslims in Japan, many are workers from Indonesia who have work visas and others are Japanese converts to Islam. Yes, all must follow Japanese laws)

g) Japan is the only country in the world that has a negligible number of embassies of Islamic countries. (Absolutely not true. See list here: Japan Ministry of Foreign Affairs)

h) Japanese people are not attracted to Islam at all. (Wrong, considering there are many Japanese converts to Islam)

i) Muslims residing in Japan are the employees of foreign companies. (Many are, but not all)

j) Even today visas are not granted to Muslim doctors, engineers or managers sent by foreign companies. (As stated before, working visas are hard to come by in Japan, but I am sure some have been issued to professionals listed above)

k) In the majority of companies, it is stated in their regulations that no Muslims should apply for a job. (Another point I find hard to believe)

l) The Japanese government is of the opinion that Muslims are fundamentalist and even in the era of globalization, they are not willing to change their Muslim laws. (Japan changes its laws for no one, Muslim or otherwise. All must obey Japanese laws)

m) Muslims can not even think about getting a rented house in Japan.(Preposterous)

n) If anyone comes to know that his neighbor is a Muslim then the whole neighborhood stays alert. (I have no idea how they come up with this information. The Japanese as a whole are very welcoming and friendly to foreigners living there)

o) No one can start an Islamic cell or Arabic Madarsa in Japan (There are several mosques in Japan)


MOSQUE OF KOBE

p) There is no personal (Sharia) law in Japan. (True)

q) If a Japanese woman marries a Muslim then she is considered an outcast forever. (In many Japanese families, a woman is an outcast for marrying any non-Japanese)

r) According to Mr. Komico Yagi (Head of Department, Tokyo University) There is a mind frame in Japan that Islam is a very narrow minded religionand one should stay away from it. (Head of WHAT department? This is just common knowledge about Islam)

s) Freelance journalist Mohammed Juber toured many countries after 9/11 including Japan. He found that the Japanese were confident that extremists could do no harm in Japan. (I believe that Islamic extremists would have a harder time of making trouble in Japan than in other countries, but it’s not impossible. Remember the Sarin gas attack in the Tokyo subway some years ago?)

Alan: My California confessor, Tom Weston S.J., noted that “You can safely assume you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do.” 


Perhaps the surest sign of "perdition" is when we dedicate ourselves to cataloguing "who's damned." 

This passion self-apotheosis requires that an individual know the extent of God's mercy... and precisely which human beings lie beyond its reach.

A pathognomic feature of contemporary "conservatism" is its co-equal love of falsehood and the (purported) love of God.

Pax vobiscum

Alan


On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:36 PM, John Tarantino wrote:

I never knew this either, did you?
Ciao
----- Original Message -----
From: 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:28 AM
Subject: FW: Japan - I never knew

Begin forwarded message:

Date: January 18, 2013 11:12:58 PM EST
Subject: Re: Japan - I never knew


            They are indeed a very evolved race.

Have you ever read in the newspaper that a political
leader or a prime minister from an Islamic nation
has visited Japan?

Have you ever come across news that the King of
Iran or a Saudi Arabia prince has visited Japan?

     Japan, a Country keeping Islam at bay.

 Japan has put strict restrictions on Islam and
ALL Muslims. 

    The reasons are: 
a) Japan is the only nation that does not give citizenship
    to Muslims.

b) In Japan permanent residency is not given to Muslims.

c) There is a strong ban on the propagation of Islam in
    Japan .

d) In the University of Japan,  Arabic or any Islamic
    language is not taught.

e) One cannot import ‘Koran’ published in Arabic
    language. 
f) According to data published by Japanese government,
    it has given temporary residency to only 2 lakhs
    Muslims, who need to follow the Japanese Law
    of the Land. These Muslims should speak Japanese
    and carry their religious rituals in their homes.

g) Japan is the only country in the world that has a
    negligible number of embassies of Islamic countries. 
h) Japanese people are not attracted to Islam at all. 

i) Muslims residing in Japan are the employees of
    foreign companies.

j) Even today visas are not granted to Muslim doctors,
    engineers or managers sent by foreign companies.

k) In the majority of companies, it is stated in their
    regulations that no Muslims should apply for a job.

l) The Japanese government is of the opinion that
    Muslims are fundamentalist and even in the era
     of globalization, they are not willing to change
     their Muslim laws.

m) Muslims can not even think about getting a rented
    house in Japan .

n) If anyone comes to know that his neighbor is a
    Muslim then the whole neighbourhood stays alert. 
o) No one can start an Islamic cell or Arabic ‘Madarsa’
     in Japan 

p) There is no personal (Sharia) law in Japan .

q) If a Japanese woman marries a Muslim then she is
    considered an outcast forever.

r) According to Mr. Komico Yagi (Head of Department,
    Tokyo University ) “There is a mind frame in Japan
    that Islam is a very narrow minded religion and one
    should stay away from it.”

s) Freelance journalist Mohammed Juber toured many
    Islamic countries after 9/11 including Japan . He found
    that the Japanese were confident that extremists could
    do no harm in Japan.
Well done Japan… We salute your country..

Alan: Conservative Americans never salute another country unless it's a roundabout way of saluting themselves. The real face of "exceptionalism" is that "We are #1... and everyone else sucks."